Thanks Blu, that means a lot since you've known quite a few. Over the last six months I've gotten to know some career club staff (nowhere even near our scene!) and they are unbelievably professional. They work mainstream/buckhead joints and it's awesome to see how they do it. Their competition is in some ways pretty fierce. Most of us working in the scene were only ever part-timers (or well, worse) though I think Kary and/or Jsin made a go of doing it full time at some point. But if we had someone like the people above promoting a few years back, it would have made things a lot better. The goth scene would certainly not have become the laughing stock of the Atlanta indie scene as quickly. In the end though, the money isn't there to attract those kind of people--we're a small niche market made up predominantly of the terminally broke.