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[funeralcrasher]

is something wrong with picture management on LJ? I deleted one of my images, but it remains in my list of pictures.

anyway. while i'm here..

i've thought about aquaknot, entertainme_nt and others's comments about the net killing our scene a lot over the last couple of days. while i'm probably not going to delete my journal I am going to make a concerted effort to spend less time here. I don't know if I can do it becuase, well.. i'm addicted just like many others. but i'm going to try.

in other news, Tears for the Dying may have found a victim.. i mean bassist. i've spoken with this person on the phone a couple of times and after listening to our existing demo tracks he still remained interested... upas and I will meet him this weekend, unless he comes to his senses and decides not to show up.

aquaknot i'm interested in your comment from yesterday.. very much so..

Comments

[blu-muse.livejournal.com]

Speaking as someone who didn't like it and tried to change it in TWO cities -- it ain't always about the "want" and it certainly doesn't gurantee that it will happen just because you try. All I got for my troubles were alot of flack, hate mail and some personal threats (in Atlanta) and some "don't hit your ass on the way out" and complaints about trying go "force new things down our throats" from Seattle. Neither place has changed much in the years since I left. Mike has been trying for YEARS and YEARS to jump start Atlanta and he held court over it for a while but it was ALWAYS a struggle and in the end, the clubs followed the same trend that swept the rest of the goth scene. Point is, you have to enough like minded people who aren't lazy to start something different and then you have to hope you have enough interested patrons to make it worthwhile. You're NOT gonna convert the EBM/techno kids over to something else - that's fishing in the wrong pond.

[pkbarbiedoll.livejournal.com]

ok not to put ya on the spot or anything, but what would it take you to come out to a night which probably wouldn't draw many people at first (if ever), and to do so regularly?

Trey tried with New Death Disco last year, and besides the three DJ's, their signifigant others, and the bartender I was often one of only 3 or 4 people there.

Is it that people didn't know about that night, or were simply uninterested in an alternative to EBM/fetish night?

Same thing happened with Collaborative, although as Mike pointed out there were other reasons why that didn't do as well as we all first hoped.

I feel like I want to (help) organize something, but god look at the track record for this town. Nobody seems to want to go out unless they know other people are going to be there, or maybe most people in Atlanta truly don't care about an alternative to EBM. I don't know.. I haven't figured that out yet.

[pkbarbiedoll.livejournal.com]

i know.. i think most of us know that creating change isn't easy and won't happen overnight.

when change is offered, maybe through postpunk/deathrock night at the Armoury, or similar event at a hole-in-the-wall, and after being promoted and advertised - nobody shows up week after week, then what?

i mean, there are a lot of people on dead_atlanta's list - if only half of them decided to come out that would make a small club feel a lot less empty.

what is preventing them from coming out? scene clique-ishness? work? lack of interest in music offered?

[pkbarbiedoll.livejournal.com]

god when i reply to myself i know its been a long fucking day...

what is preventing them from coming out? scene clique-ishness? work? lack of interest in music offered?

I didn't go to the Unadored show last weekend. Why? because I've seen the bands that played and that's not really my style of music.. and two, when I do go to goth night most people there act like snobs becasue i don't know.. maybe its that i don't wear patent leather or platform boots.

most people that go to goth night don't care about supporting anything other than what they have right now, period. and its so unfair that people like me go to their nights when we have nothing at all right now, grovelling and begging for them to please support the entire scene, knowing they won't.

fuck this, fuck me, and fuck atlanta. this fucking place sucks because god damn me, i don't like techno metal and burlesque shows.